Markets are...
They were once upon a time spaces...
Then somewhere along the way they became targets (*shudder*)...
Then they became conversations...
And now Doc says they are relationships...
Personally, I think Markets are a figment of our imagination...a dream...a result of wishful thinking.
We think they exist because we want them to. There are people who need stuff and there are more people who provide/create/etc. stuff, who are also people who need stuff. And these people are flowing back and forth between those two 'worlds', which aren't worlds at all - there is really only one world. So, in essence, there are really only people and sometimes we need stuff and sometimes we sell stuff.
To reduce these complex relationships to a monolithic idea of a market, actually seriously understimates the possibilities of how these relationships can further us in general.
Then somewhere along the way they became targets (*shudder*)...
Then they became conversations...
And now Doc says they are relationships...
Personally, I think Markets are a figment of our imagination...a dream...a result of wishful thinking.
We think they exist because we want them to. There are people who need stuff and there are more people who provide/create/etc. stuff, who are also people who need stuff. And these people are flowing back and forth between those two 'worlds', which aren't worlds at all - there is really only one world. So, in essence, there are really only people and sometimes we need stuff and sometimes we sell stuff.
To reduce these complex relationships to a monolithic idea of a market, actually seriously understimates the possibilities of how these relationships can further us in general.
6 Comments:
markets are imaginary.. or a dream.. word up !
Why Tara? This doesn't make sense to me. If you say markets don't exist then how do you square that to an economic view of the world?
How do peopole make choices about similar things? They need context and location which is what a market delivers - doesn't it?
@dennis
..."how to you square that to an economic view of the world?"
Exactly. People don't fit neatly into an 'economic view of the world' - never have and never will. We are messy. We make emotional decisions. We all have our own way of dealing with things.
You can continue to treat people like numbers in an economic view (even economists will argue that economics cannot account for human behaviour), but expect it to be severely lacking and flawed.
Tara: I'd really like to understand what you're saying but as I'm sure you're aware, making these kinds of statement need grounding in some sort of hyopthetical basis for business people to test and understand. Maybe undesirable but a business fact of life.
Your argument fails to do that as it stands except on the basis of a loosely folksy acceptance of an unsubstantiated assertion.
By all means pursue that as a line of thinking but recall that business doesn't respond to these ideas without context. And - all business people require an economic understanding. Which - at least for me - is very unclear from what you're saying.
And no - I'm not brain f**king you. I've got an audience and I believe there is an important point here worth exploring.
Oh my...Dennis...it's tough to describe exactly where I'm coming from. I remember not very long ago being in your position, trying to make sense of it all.
But it doesn't make sense. It's about people. People don't make sense.
Business will eventually change. I know business isn't actually a thing, either. It's made up of people who want to make sense of stuff and who think that by controlling messages, it will be soooo much easier to exist. But then they sit and wonder why they are missing their goals and what's just gone on?
So...those people behind that faceless 'business' will actually have to start thinking in human connection terms and that means that you can't paint a wide range of people with the same paintbrush. Cause when you do, you inevitably end up with shallow relationships and low loyalty...
And that, my friend, is the reality of reality.
Markets are the same as economics, Dennis. Models/metaphors that attempt to explain human behavior.
If the model works for you, fine.
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