George Costanza on Pinko Marketing

Thanks to Sean Coon for clarifying to my readers who got a little stuck on the Marxist stuff (and, really, I have no business mixing politics with marketing - the analogy, although fitting, was bound to raise more eyebrows than make my point). Sean is right. George Costanza's Seinfeld persona had quite a bit of wisdom to offer the philosophy of Pinko Marketing.
So, summoning the character, I imagined a fictional interview where George would describe Pinko Marketing to the world. It goes something like this:
Interviewer: So, George, I've heard a good deal about this Pinko Marketing stuff lately and I'm not quite sure what it all means. Care to enlighten our viewers?So, it's a marketing philosophy about doing nothing?
George: Well, Oprah, get this. The strategy of Pinko Marketing is to....(looks around slyly)...do nothing.
I: What? What do you mean? Do nothing? I don't understand.
G: That's the beauty of it (waves arms wildly). Nothing! You do nothing! Nada! Nit! Not! Zilch! It's about doing nothing! Beautiful, isn't it? I'm such a genius!
I: Ummmm...k...well...erm....back after these messages? (cuts to commercials, replaces George with emergency fill-in guest)
Well, like Seinfeld, if it had truly been a show about nothing, nobody would have watched it. But the writing was really funny (I do love Larry David's stuff) and the situations were absolutely absurdly common (we could all relate to losing ones's car in a garage while carrying heavy parcels - the way they took mundane situations and made them hilarious was the beautiful simplicity of Seinfeld).
It is, however, about doing nothing in the sense that you get out of the way and let the community take you where you need to go. As soon as you feel like planning anything, stop it. (ie. do nothing on the planning end).
I've had some great conversations with people since I started posting this. First, I had a conversation with the brilliant Brian Oberkirch of Weblogs Work, where he asked me:
"So, no outbound messages at all?"
I instantly answered "No", but quickly reconsidered. That's not accurate. You have to say something at some point, but only when it's natural to do so. Example? Um. Me. How many times do I mention Riya on my blog? I once had one of our VC's ask me why I don't talk about Riya very much here. I replied, "Because nobody wants to read that we are going to launch soon for six months." But even beyond that, there is a Riya blog for updates and kudos and all of that stuff. That's not community, that's news. Still, who doesn't associate me with Riya on some level. Even when I say really stupid, embarassing things. Egad, what kind of a company representative does that make me? Well...that's a whole other post. ;)
But my point is that I use my blog to just talk about stuff that interests me (and sometimes out of my rss). My 'marketing' comes into play in how we design the product.
Seven months ago, when I arrived all bright-eyed and naive, Riya was Ojos, Inc. and the site was clunky, convoluted and confusing. The team of brilliant engineers and researchers had an amazing vision, but very little grasp of how to design UI for people. The best thing I could do was to get involved with the design and direction. I took feedback from the community excited about the ideas and my interaction with many of the Web 2.0 tools out there and brought it back to the team.
I talked to them about tagging, why we tag and how people tag.
I tested oodles of amazing new web apps with brilliant ideas for solving complex issues with simple UI. I watched to see what other pe0ple were picking up on. I live in the community of the people who build, use and enjoy these apps daily. I live my life online.
I started collaborating. I got involved with BarCamp, Microformats and many other commons-based movements. Not because I wanted to sell Riya to anyone. Nope. I want to learn. Absorb. Get ideas. Share ideas. Build relationships. Care. Get passionate.
And I continue to bring to my team the voice of the community. Sometimes it's just my voice as an individual with personal needs. Sometimes I'm speaking for a wider audience. Sometimes I bring other people I meet in to speak for themselves. Sometimes I dead wrong.
But I'm always fortunate. I work for a company that 'gets it'. They actually pay me to be passionate about this stuff, because they know that whatever it is I do (really, Munjal still can't quite put his finger on it, but he has oodles of faith), it's working out nicely.
So...do nothing. Really. If you think of a good marketing plan or campaign or scheme, do the opposite. Instead, become the person you want to meet.
[tags: pinkomarketing, cluetrain, marketing]




9 Comments:
I loved the castanza visual. Way to illustrate your point. Since you are an experienced marketer I wanted to mentiona new premier site for bloggers. It's called vipbloggers.com. Check it out and keep up the good work
"Instead, become the person you want to meet."
Funny that you ended with this comment, because that's exactly the point I was ALMOST at before I finished the post.
I just can't accept the 'get out of the way' aspect. I still think our goal as marketers is to help the consumer get to the place that they are headed. And something Kathy Sierra recently wrote about anticipating behavior really nailed it home for me.
Then again, as you pointed out yesterday, you can never be completely sure which direction the people will take.
I'm ALMOST completely on board with your idea, and I think if I can find the right set of terms for me, I can accept it.
Ok if I were to describe Pinko Marketing to someone else, how close would this be: Pinko Marketing is about understanding the flow of the consumer by completely immersing yourself in their community. Pinko Marketing is NOT about trying to shape or plan the flow of the community, it is about becoming a PART of that community, so that their path becomes your path.
Once your path becomes my path, then I understand where we are headed, and the value I bring to you is the ability to help you get to your destination as quickly and easily as possible.
If that agrees with your idea of Pinko Marketing, then I get it. If not, then we can keep hashing it out, which might be more fun anyway ;)
Well, you are a promoter who's being paid to blog about how great a company is. I am sure you believe it. I'd also recommend trying to blog about some penny stocks. Imagine the earnings!
Great, thoughtful stuff, Tara. Though I'm getting stuck a bit in some of the same places as Mack. Maybe we're just parsing words too finely, but I'm reminded of the phrase I read recently (where, I wish I could remember) about paving cow paths, i.e. seeing where people go, what they do and facilitating it. But if you get out of the completely then when those people follow that cow path to a locked gate, you won't be there waiting to unlock it for them so they can head into the next pasture (sorry for the farming theme, but hey this is HorsePigCow, right?) Anyway, it seems that learning from the community also means sometimes anticipating what they need and getting out in front of them to make it happen. Of course, if you're not doing that then you bes' get out the way. Kind of like using the left lane to pass, otherwise move over and let other by. (to pile metaphor upon metaphor). Anyway, digging all the Post-Cluetrain stuff and happy to recognize that Pinko marketing doesn't have to mean we all goosestep to Maggie's farm.
Great, thoughtful stuff, Tara. Though I'm getting stuck a bit in some of the same places as Mack. Maybe we're just parsing words too finely, but I'm reminded of the phrase I read recently (where, I wish I could remember) about paving cow paths, i.e. seeing where people go, what they do and facilitating it. But if you get out of the completely then when those people follow that cow path to a locked gate, you won't be there waiting to unlock it for them so they can head into the next pasture (sorry for the farming theme, but hey this is HorsePigCow, right?) Anyway, it seems that learning from the community also means sometimes anticipating what they need and getting out in front of them to make it happen. Of course, if you're not doing that then you bes' get out the way. Kind of like using the left lane to pass, otherwise move over and let other by. (to pile metaphor upon metaphor). Anyway, digging all the Post-Cluetrain stuff and happy to recognize that Pinko marketing doesn't have to mean we all goosestep to Maggie's farm.
Dammit mack and pinecone...;)
think of "The Force"! You have to let it go...really...read my job description. Then breathe deeply.
You know that paving cowpaths thing? From what I've seen, cows aren't especially fond of pavement, so they will take another route (I am a farmgirl after all). So...yes...sure...pave stuff. But, for gosh sake's, don't pave crap like "how do we make this more viral?" and stuff. Pave the good stuff like helping users kick ass (Kathy rocks) by fixing the broken bits.
Get out of the way and listen and be the advocate for your community, not for your company. That's what I mean. You are a lobbyist for your peeps...
Not that you are at odds with your employer or your company...no. It's a happy relationship...well, as long as they 'get it' (then you may want to examine why you are working there pimping their crappy products).
Anyway...the force, guys. Use the force.
But but but.....when you say 'Get out of the way!', what I hear is 'Get out of the equation'. I understand the point you are trying to make that the consumer is in control, but it sounds like your argument is that marketers have no use in this equation, given the terms you are framing your stance with. At least that's what I'm hearing.
I still think the idea is for the marketer to help the consumer get to their destination. People have been trading videos over the net for years, but along comes YouTube, makes the process easy as pie, and they are an instant hit. Someone was eventually going to create a program/site that would make it much easier and convient for users to trade videos, it just so happens that YouTube was the one to do it. IOW they helped the consumer more quickly arrive at a destination that they would have reached anyway.
Honestly I think we are debating terms moreso than concepts at this point. And yes Kathy rocks, but she also recently blogged about the importance of 'anticipating behavior'. We can't do that if we get out of the way and follow the consumer. I think the key is to walk with the consumer as a part of their community, not behind them.
"Pave the good stuff like helping users kick ass (Kathy rocks) by fixing the broken bits."
That sounds dangerously close to path-clearing to me ;) How do we get out of the way AND go around fixing stuff and paving the path?
Sorry for being a pain in the ass, it comes naturally, and like I said I think this is a very interesting discussion you've started.
@Mack
Please don't get caught up in the semantics. We aren't out of a job. In fact, if you read my 'Pinko Marketing Job Description' you will see that us marketers have a VERY active role.
And...if you read through my account of what I've done at Riya, you'll see I am very active.
I don't pave paths as much as I wander down them with others to see why they are going in that direction so that I may know which paths they will probably be taking in the future to be ready for that. Although this analogy isn't quite right.
I believe in zero formulas (which is kind of a formula in itself)...a very organic approach.
"I don't pave paths as much as I wander down them with others to see why they are going in that direction so that I may know which paths they will probably be taking in the future to be ready for that. Although this analogy isn't quite right."
Well crap that was the one that's made the most sense to me so far! ;) Ok ok.....I agree with your general idea, and the points that I disagree with are so minor that they're probably not worth running into the ground.
Either way, great series of marketing-related posts lately.
Post a Comment
<< Home